Randy, you don’t have to respond to my posts, but responding IS the point of a discussion. As far as I can tell, we are having a perfectly mature argument. I’m sitting on my couch, drinking a brew, catching up on BBM. I’m not screaming at my laptop or calling you or anyone names. I can’t control how you feel, but I’m not trying to upset you, nor anyone else here. This is the beauty of forums, different people with different views collaborating and discussing approaches to situations that might not otherwise occur to an individual. But, I respect you, and Elwood, and I am not trying to directly rip you or any salesman off. You make it sound like I’m deliberately starving their children because I’m being so super selfish about getting a good deal. lol, alright. Agree to disagree, see you on a different thread…in good spirits I hope.