farm find! old vespas

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farm find! old vespas

Post by donny » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:57 am

thru the grape vine of my biker friends, found these old wrecks. i have a chance at buying cheap? the blue one still has somewhat of a engine and it looks big enough to be 150 or bigger?
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could of had elite for 350$ but passed on it.

oh there is a whole lot of manuals for vaspas and other scooters? he no time to show me them but will later.
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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by Dan Durston » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:35 pm

Hmm.....that's quite the pile of scooters. Both the blue Vespa and maybe the red PGO look fixable.

If you are going to make any money off this, you need to turn at least one of these into a complete running scooter. If you can get one on the road then it will be worth $1500-$5000 depending on condition. The blue one is a PX Vespa which isn't worth quite as much as the older Vespa's but it would be worth more than the PGO. The Blue PX is probably from '75-'82 but there were a few imported more recently than that.

I would look very carefully at the Blue vespa and try to figure out what it will take to get it on the road. Do you think the motor is mostly okay? Is the wiring there? Are lots of dents that you'd need to hammer out of the body? This could be a really cool project or a really frustrating one if you need to constantly pour money into it. There are loads of parts available for the PX Vespa's, so it's really a question of whether you'll need so many parts that you end up losing money or not. You could sell some of the other Vespa parts for a few bucks maybe, but the dented up bodies probably aren't worth anything. How much for the load of scooters? Maybe you could buy just the blue one? It's a beautiful shade of blue.
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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by donny » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:23 am

i fell the same way but is all or nothing? and the rest of the parts may be anywhere? for the blue one? i have to think about this?

how many cc may the blue one be?
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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by Dan Durston » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm

The blue scooter is for sure a 'P series' Vespa. The P series Vespa's were officially sold from '78 - '83 in North America. To my knowledge, Vespa officially sold the P200 and P125X scooters over those years. Most likely the blue Vespa is one of these.

However, there were a lot more P series Vespa's that weren't officially sold here that people imported. Most popular was the PX150 but Vespa also made 50cc, 80cc and 100cc P series scooters so it's possible that it's one of these too. I would says there's a 75% chance that it's a P200 or a P125X, then a 20% chance that it's a PX150 and a 5% chance that it's a smaller P series scooter.

Can you visit these scooters are check on how complete the blue one is? It looks like a lot of parts are missing and these can be expensive...unless they are elsewhere in the van. You could also check the badging to see the engine size. How much does he want for the lot?
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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by donny » Mon May 04, 2009 1:11 am

yeah i will get back and get more info. from a little research i have done and looking at other old vespas that blue one has atleast a 125 or bigger engine?

you may not be able to see in pics but there is a big! cargo box for a scooter in the front drivers seat of van . it is dirty! but to restore? and there is a lot of other rear compartment stuff on floor of van some still in plastic? but old.
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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by roadcapDen » Wed May 20, 2009 7:08 am

Wow! Nice find, I'd be takin' inventory and confirming the models.
Good potential for mula denaro!
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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by Dan Durston » Wed May 20, 2009 1:46 pm

Hey...there is an Elite 250 in this pile....maybe you can sell the rear shocks to 'crashoverride'.
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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by crashoverride » Wed May 20, 2009 2:31 pm

Someone frankenstined that CH250 but there are some parts for salvage most likely.

Be nice if you had time to look it over a little more closely. You don't want to get stuck with crap or parts that are too dmged to be use selling.

Im in St. Cath, so if you ever do buy that Ch250 or pass on it (perhaps pass along my name) I bet we could try to see if anything worth taking.

Even new scoots if not stored properly will be pretty dmged..those look like a tornado hit em, so I bet a lot of work could be involved.

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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by donny » Thu May 21, 2009 8:12 am

the elite 250 is ugly but it runs! it is fast! he will not part it out but i could get it for 300-350$ if your interested? i only want the vespa stuff
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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by crashoverride » Thu May 21, 2009 8:39 am

Do we know what year it is? Mine is 85 and some of the newer ones have diff parts. I would have to figure a way to get it to St. Cath, but it would be a great learning experience to strip it down and clean it up.

If you can get the year I will start looking for transport.

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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by donny » Thu May 21, 2009 9:50 am

hey if your that interested i can bring it down,after rally? the front nose is broken but it is all there. needs a full strip down and cleaning and repaint? black is cheap and would look good with a shine? the scooter runs but needs a new battery or jump start to run, other wise the cooling system seems to work and signals need some repair but wiring is in fair shape. seat is real ugly needs a new skin?

let me know and i will call the guy?
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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by crashoverride » Thu May 21, 2009 10:06 am

Can we verify the VIN or Year of manufacture, cause it really needs to be 85-88 model to be of use.

PS: lets use this thread..I some how hijacked a few other threads :shock:

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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by donny » Thu May 21, 2009 10:46 am

hey he wants to know where the vin and year are? he had one look and cannot find it? and he wants 350$
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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by crashoverride » Thu May 21, 2009 10:58 am

open seat, at rear TOP etched in tank is VIN
Also, VIN front left frame about half way down on steering column
Also Engine # stamped on rear crank case left side top.

Here is how to tell.

Elite CH250
1985
Colour Candy Orchard Red, Summer Blond
VIN JH2MF010*FK000001
Californ VIN JH2HF011*FK000001
Engine # MF01E-5000001
Product Code KM1

1986
Colour Pearl Satin White, Pearl Gold Black
VIn JH2MF010*GK100001
Californ VIN JH2HF011*GK100001
Engine# MF01E-5100001
Product Code KM1

1987
ColourCandy Ruby Red, Pearl Gold Black
VIN JH2MF010*HK200001
Californ VIN JH2MF011*HK200001
Engine# MF01E-5200001
Product Code KM1

1988
Colour Myth Gray Metallic, Pearl Gold Black
VIN JH2MF010*JK300001
Cali VIN JH2MF011*JK300001
Engine # MF01E-5300001
Product Code KM1

1989
Colour Starlight Blue Metallic
VIN JH2MF010*KK000001
Cal V JH2MF011*KK000001
Engine #MF03E-2000019
Product Code KAB

1990
Colour Granite Blue Metallic
VIN JH2MF010*LK100001
Cali VINJH2MF011*LK100001
Engine CodeMF03E-2100001
Product # KAB
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Re: fram find! old vespas

Post by donny » Thu May 21, 2009 11:42 am

i called and tried over phone,all he found was ch250 km code? he is a bizzy mechanic and lost patience looking has cars to fix? i guess i will have to go up and look?

km1 seems to cover the older elites?
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