Honda Elite SA50 Kick starter same as GY6 50cc?

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Honda Elite SA50 Kick starter same as GY6 50cc?

Post by djd » Thu Nov 23, 2017 9:52 pm

Hi,
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Tried searching and didn't find anything so I'll ask the question:

Just picked up a 1989 Elite SA50 in good condition. Starts well on the electric starter. The kick start arm is missing and the kick start shaft - with welded on gear segment - is stripped.

The Honda parts are a little pricey. However there is a kit available for the GY6 50cc that contains the kick arm, kick arm shaft with welded gear, driven gear, coil spring, shaft bushing, washers and cir-clip for only $21. From the pictures, the internal parts look identical to what is on my SA50. The kick arm looks like it should work.

My question: Does anyone know if these GY6 kick start parts are interchangeable with the SA50?
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Re: Honda Elite SA50 Kick starter same as GY6 50cc?

Post by Dan Durston » Fri Nov 24, 2017 2:32 pm

Honda usually makes the crankshaft out of a harder metal than the pieces attached to it, so it might not actually be stripped but rather just filled up with soft metal. With my Ruckus I thought mine was stripped after I didn't tighten the variator properly once, but actually metal from the variator/kickstarter had just gummed up the splines on the crankshaft. The variator was toast but I was able to clean out the soft metal from the harder splines with a sharp metal object (awl from a Swiss Army knife) and it was fine again.

Maybe yours is different though, I haven't worked on an SA50. No idea if the GY6 parts will work. Did you check the price for Honda parts? You might also be able to find cheaper used Honda parts on eBay.
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Re: Honda Elite SA50 Kick starter same as GY6 50cc?

Post by djd » Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:45 pm

Thanks you for the reply, but I think you're talking about a different part.

I'm talking about the 13mm splined shaft the kick start arm fits on to. It goes thru the belt cover and has a gear segment welded to it. When activating the kick start, the gear segment meshes with a pinion gear that moves out and engages with the start gear hub.

I ordered the GY6 parts based on the pictures. Will see if they fit.
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Re: Honda Elite SA50 Kick starter same as GY6 50cc?

Post by Dan Durston » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:29 pm

Sounds like your setup is different. On the newer Honda's the kickstarter gear slides right on to the end of the crankshaft.

Good luck with the GY6 parts.
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Re: Honda Elite SA50 Kick starter same as GY6 50cc?

Post by MotorScooterGuy50 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:52 pm

The GY6 follows the same general idea but no, it is not dimensionally the same.

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